Islamic fundamentalism triggers Christian fundamentalism?

Posted by Georgi Gotev on 25/07/11

Is Anders Breivik a lone wolf, or is the Norway bloodshed signaling a new terrorist threat?

According to his “Manifesto’, Breivik carefully planned each of his steps up to the killings. But more importantly, he also appears to have plans for the next years – nothing less than inspiring a ‘European civil war’ and a crusade against Muslims and pro-immigration left-wingers.

I’m a journalist, so it may look weird if I say that this trial should take place behind closed doors. But as a citizen, I think that’s safer. I have no idea how many extreme right activists Breivik could inspire, but as we saw, one man is enough to plunge a country into chaos.

By the way, Breivik will be out of jail at 53. He cannot serve more than 21 years in prison, according to Norwegian law. It would be a nightmare if he would reintegrate society as a political leader.

After the Oslo bloody Friday, I expect that right wing extremists across Europe would be monitored by the law enforcement in the same was as suspected Al Qaeda cells.

I would also expect a more in-depth discussion about what Angela Merkel and David Cameron called the failure of the multicultural model in European societies. What are the reasons for such failures? What can be done to address the shortcomings?

The failure of the Muslim immigrants to integrate in Western societies fuels Islamic fundamentalism, and now we learned that Islamic fundamentalism can fuel Christian fundamentalism.

Bin Laden would be very happy if he knew of such development.

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  1. Yuri L
    Comment by Yuri L | 2011/07/28 at 13:37:55

    I couldn’t agree more with you regarding the need for an in-depth and open discussion about immigration, multiculturalism and islam.

    The absence thereof is one of the components of that terrible potion that has been brewing in the sick mind of Breivik. Not that I want to justify him, no, not a bit, there is no forgiveness for such a deed and 30 years of cell is a joke. But if these issues had not been tabooed and hushed in our society the probability of this shootout would have been significantly smaller.

    Unfortunately, any attempt at a civilized discussion of all problems related to immigration and islam are labelled as racist in advance. Thus, we are facing a situation when in many European cities there are people who see the changes around them, they are frightened, but they are also afraid to raise their voice for fear of being pointed at as rasist scum. Nothing good can come out of this. How many more breiviks are there?

  2. Yuri L
    Comment by Yuri L | 2011/07/28 at 13:48:51

    I couldn’t agree more with you regarding the need for an in-depth and open discussion about immigration, multiculturalism and islam.

    The absence thereof is one of the components of that terrible potion that has been brewing in the sick mind of Breivik. Not that I want to justify him, no, not a bit, there is no forgiveness for such a deed and 30 years of cell is a joke. But if these issues had not been tabooed and hushed in our society the probability of this shootout would have been significantly smaller.

    Unfortunately, any attempt at a civilized discussion of all problems related to immigration and islam are labelled as racist in advance. Thus, we are facing a situation when in many European cities there are people who see the changes around them, they are frightened, but they are also afraid to raise their voice for fear of being pointed at as racist scum. Nothing good can come out of this. How many more breiviks are there?

  3. Cem
    Comment by Cem | 2011/07/28 at 19:29:21

    In my opinion there is no failure of the multicultural society in Europe. And it is a mistake to explain the killings in Norway by pointing the finger at the immigrants of Muslim religion.

    To start with, it’s not because there are people of Muslim religion that don’t integrate that we are able to say that all the people of Muslim religion don’t integrate.

    Besides, how many are they? And is there only citizens of Muslim religion that don’t integrate?

    I don’t want to copy and paste thus I suggest that article about the dangerous speech that Merkel made last year:

    http://turkey.blogactiv.eu/2010/11/09/angela-merkel-and-mr-sarkozy-mr-zapatero-and-mr-erdogan/

    Well are Airbus or ESA failures?

    Secondly, I do not believe that the failure of some Muslim immigrants to integrate in Western societies fuels Islamic fundamentalism (Islamic fundamentalism has other sources).

    But that failure explains in part intolerance and racism, and that racism fuels “Christian fundamentalism” or horrible killings.

    Let’s remind this: Thou shall not kill. Hence a Christian or a Muslim can not kill, because someone who believes in God can’t kill, so no religious reason about the killings in Norway.

    And what fuels intolerance and racism? Here are some reasons:

    1/ The extremist leaders of the EU who manipulate religion to gain some votes in order to soothe their thirst of power. They succeed in brainwashing the EU citizens and spreading more racism and hatred.

    2/ The leaders such as:

    - Sarkozy, who is used to repeating that Turkey can’t be an EU member or for instance who asked for a “debate” about Islam,

    - Merkel (her declaration about the so-called failure of the multicultural society which actually did target Turkey’s EU membership),

    - Elmar Brok, who said that they (the CSU-CDU) will do everything that the Greek Cypriots will ask them,

    - Michael Spindelegger, who shamelessly provoked Turkey and its president and thus fed once more the notorious Austrian nationalism against Turkey,

    - or Van Rompuy, who was chosen as the president of the EU in spite of the fact that he said in the past that Turkey can’t be an EU member because it is a country of Muslim religion. Wow, is it the reason why he was chosen as the president of the EU?

    3/ The media, which make a brainwashing about Islam. In fact, the media mix Islam and terrorism. Who do control the media?

    To conclude, there is no religion behind the horrible events in Norway. They are the result of an appalling brainwashing of the media and of the notorious EU extremist politicians (as well as of several EU leaders). We the EU citizens have to unite against Islamophobia which represents a serious menace.

    Best regards,

    Cem – turkey.blogactiv.eu

    PS. The opinion of three extremist leaders (an Italian, a French and an English) about what happened in Norway is revealing: they said that they understand the thoughts of the murderer. Terrifying. My God.

    PPS. Egemen Bagis was unfortunately right about Islamophobia:

    http://reuniting-europe.blogactiv.eu/2011/02/03/turkey-says-racism-takes-hold-of-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-356

  4. Yuri L
    Comment by Yuri L | 2011/07/29 at 08:56:21

    Cem, nobody here “explains the killings in Norway by pointing the finger at the immigrants of Muslim religion”, neither the author of the blog post nor myself. There is not even a hint at this, so I am not sure I understand who you are arguing with.

    As for the rest of your blog post, your opinion is so mainstream and politically correct, that it is even boring, so I will pretend I agree with you to save some time: There are no problems with multiculturalism, islam is just a religion like any other, moslims integrate as well as the others, they all respect the countries they in, and nobody has fear of islam but some marginal scum like Geert Wilders and Thilo Sarrazin. This is the only problem and these racists should be shut up for good or better jailed. And the statistics that Thilo Sarrazin used for his book should be removed from public domain. And yes, Turkey is historically and geographically part of Europe.
    Problem solved. Marching on…

  5. Cem
    Comment by Cem | 2011/07/29 at 10:47:23

    Yuri L, what a level.

    As for my comment, it is clear.

    Cem

    PS. “The failure of the Muslim immigrants to integrate in Western societies fuels Islamic fundamentalism, and now we learned that Islamic fundamentalism can fuel Christian fundamentalism.”


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